I like to think that after the ending (post-canon), with many years having gone by, that maybe they could settle the past with time,, leave it there since it can't be changed, and care for each other as the last of their family, but probably not as close siblings that they once were. Currently, the original novel by MXTX ( | M Xing Tng Xi) has been adapted into a donghua, manhua, audio drama and live action! JC only calls dogs to scares him out but trust me, he would never kill him. Then he thinks WWX killed and did lots of wrong things. 'The Untamed' cast: Why does everyone hate Jiang Cheng? I think JC walking away shaking his head was more of a "What a shame/What a waste" type of head shake instead of "There he goes with his tricks/antics again.". Anywaysif JC wanted to kill WWX, he would have done so then and he wouldn't just leave him with Fairy when they met afterwards. But no Jiang Cheng doesn't care about that, he just wants all the Wens dead because of the actions of two people. But his arm was injured and perhaps it was supposed to mean that WWX was afraid LWJ would also be harmed? Wei Wuxian returned to his home after finishing his training at the Gusu Lan Sect, and a series of disastrous events made him give away his spiritual power to save the life of his martial brother, Jiang Cheng. This might have gotten a bit off topic, but I guess my opinion would be just that JC wouldn't accept WWXs death, bcs he believed WWX has something to do, as in apologise to him on his knees and make him feel better and have a scape goat again Ehhh Yanli, why did u have to be an idiot and die Who is gonna make the lotus and disaster boy talk to each other without u . Because WWX gave his golden core to JC without a doubt, without questioning a thing. In fury, Jiang Cheng calls Jin Guangyao the "son of a prostitute." They are then saved by Wei Wuxian's return as a demonic cultivator. I was under the impression that Wei Wuxian never really blame Jiang Wanjin for anything he did to him specifically, but he was enraged when the other talk bad about the Wens he was protecting or Lan WangJi. Jiang Fengmian wore the purple robes . before (or even as he was) dying he destroyed the amulet. Finally, and my biggest issue with the novel was the treatment of Lan Xichen and Jiang Cheng. Chapter 7 He claims that Jiang Cheng still does not understand their clan motto, and Yu Ziyuan interrupts to criticize her husband for again favoring Wei Wuxian. Its really hard for me to accept that WWX who w as repeatedly described as having a hero complex never felt guilty for murdering innocents, sure he might not have liked the other cultivators but he would not have been fine with just killing them when they provoked him?? A subreddit dedicated to fans, by fans, of all versions and adaptations of Mo Dao Zu Shi! The two marry shortly after the incident at the Guanyin Temple, and they maintain a loving, passionate relationship. [Mo Dao Zu Shi] Interview With The Author - NEET's Works I need to know if they'll be okay! Jiang Yanli also makes lotus root pork ribs soup for Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian. Dead Wi Yng | Wi Wxin - Works | Archive of Our Own [1], Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian both attend the Cloud Recesses to learn from Lan Qiren. Did Wei Wuxian kill himself? (Tw: suicide.) : r/MoDaoZuShi - reddit Snd Shngshu snd lit. More helpful answer: From JC's POV, WWX did a lot to personally betray him: his actions stirred the wrath of the Wen Sect leading to the death of his parents and Sect. He also took Wei Wuxian under his care as his ward, raising him alongside his own children. I think by the end, they went forward in the right direction to mend their relationship. Agree with dearclover . JC has a lot to process, a lot to swallow. Probably gonna watch the drama and hope for the best next. Audio Drama (CN) JC had almost no time at all to process this information by the time they met at the temple. Wen Qing refuses, citing the rest of her family, whom she cannot abandon and returns the comb. ._1QwShihKKlyRXyQSlqYaWW{height:16px;width:16px;vertical-align:bottom}._2X6EB3ZhEeXCh1eIVA64XM{margin-left:3px}._1jNPl3YUk6zbpLWdjaJT1r{font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;border-radius:2px;display:inline-block;margin-right:5px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;vertical-align:text-bottom;white-space:pre;word-break:normal;padding:0 4px}._1jNPl3YUk6zbpLWdjaJT1r._39BEcWjOlYi1QGcJil6-yl{padding:0}._2hSecp_zkPm_s5ddV2htoj{font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;border-radius:2px;display:inline-block;margin-right:5px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;vertical-align:text-bottom;white-space:pre;word-break:normal;margin-left:0;padding:0 4px}._2hSecp_zkPm_s5ddV2htoj._39BEcWjOlYi1QGcJil6-yl{padding:0}._1wzhGvvafQFOWAyA157okr{font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;border-radius:2px;margin-right:5px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;vertical-align:text-bottom;white-space:pre;word-break:normal;box-sizing:border-box;line-height:14px;padding:0 4px}._3BPVpMSn5b1vb1yTQuqCRH,._1wzhGvvafQFOWAyA157okr{display:inline-block;height:16px}._3BPVpMSn5b1vb1yTQuqCRH{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-body);border-radius:50%;margin-left:5px;text-align:center;width:16px}._2cvySYWkqJfynvXFOpNc5L{height:10px;width:10px}.aJrgrewN9C8x1Fusdx4hh{padding:2px 8px}._1wj6zoMi6hRP5YhJ8nXWXE{font-size:14px;padding:7px 12px}._2VqfzH0dZ9dIl3XWNxs42y{border-radius:20px}._2VqfzH0dZ9dIl3XWNxs42y:hover{opacity:.85}._2VqfzH0dZ9dIl3XWNxs42y:active{transform:scale(.95)} He was Wei Ying, courtesy name Wei WuXian. [44], Jiang Cheng clangs two swords together to overpower the sound of Jin Guangyao's guqin. Did Jiang fengmian love Jiang Cheng? Wei Wuxian made a face in his direction. [26], Jiang Cheng is among those whose spiritual power are sealed during the first wave of corpses, and he takes shelter along with the others in the Demon-Quelling Cave. . Press J to jump to the feed. [4], Despite his lectures, Jiang Cheng carries Wei Wuxian after he was beaten as punishment, and expresses anger when Wei Wuxian is beaten so severely he needs several days to recover. I was expecting it, anticipating it even. Everyone is ultimately saved by the fierce corpses of the remnants of the Qishan Wen Clan killed during the First Siege. As you all know Madame yu is the former Matriarch of Yungmeng Jiang and the wife of Jiang Fengmian and mother to Jiang Cheng, Jiang Yangli and the adopted mother to Wei Wuxian. .LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH{fill:var(--newRedditTheme-actionIcon);height:18px;width:18px}.LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH rect{stroke:var(--newRedditTheme-metaText)}._3J2-xIxxxP9ISzeLWCOUVc{height:18px}.FyLpt0kIWG1bTDWZ8HIL1{margin-top:4px}._2ntJEAiwKXBGvxrJiqxx_2,._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{vertical-align:middle}._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-inline-flexbox;display:inline-flex;-ms-flex-direction:row;flex-direction:row;-ms-flex-pack:center;justify-content:center} Audio Drama That is a big blow. He is the only son of Cangse Sanren and Wei Changze. [44], Jin Ling runs away from Lotus Pier to seek Wei Wuxian, and Jiang Cheng follows to seek his nephew. (Chapter 59)And protecting the Wen Remnants wasn't anything difficult, Nie Mingjue and Lan Xichen asked about the debt and Jiang Wanyin just had to tell about Wen Qing and Wen Ning risking their lives to save them, (since Nie Mingjue original words were over Wen Qing's inaction, when she in fact took action when she saved the two, that was treason against her sect, had nmj and lxc known about the treason and that her branch was innocent, they would have definitely stepped in) Its highlighted with Jin Guangshan fanning his jealousy issues, he didn't want to speak up, rather than a political issue, the sects at the time are envious that he has Wei Wuxian, a powerful necromancer in his sect, meaning they do have power. About the guilt and angst thing. [4], Jiang Cheng participates in the investigation of the Waterborne Abyss in Caiyi Town. No, he doesn't hate Wei Wuxian, but I don't think the brotherly love is there anymore. Status Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I feel like we could have seen a lot more growth from WWX, but because his emotional struggle wasnt explored, I feel he didnt really grow as a person. Ofc he loves his brother, but he hates him as much and they didn't have any opportunity to talk really thru this time so they grew even more apart. Wei Wuxian is the youngest in the family, wi. I did notice JCs expression and generally it also made me curious, so I think it was more of a denial than anything. He returns to the living world in the body of Mo Xuanyu . It would be hard to not resent WWX after all that, and theres definitely some complex emotions between the two of them. .FIYolDqalszTnjjNfThfT{max-width:256px;white-space:normal;text-align:center} WWX lost control of his anger and killed JZX. thats why they turned on him "Chen Qing Ling" Why did Wei Wuxian kill his senior sister? Was it a Jin Zixuan ( short meta sentences ) Marriage: 19-23 But i do agree that the author not giving us closure about Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian relationship was kind of disappointing. Jiang Fengmian (, Jing Fngmin) was the former leader of the Yunmeng Jiang Clan, the husband of Yu Ziyuan, and the father of Jiang Cheng and Jiang Yanli. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/IdCard.ea0ac1df4e6491a16d39_.css.map*/._2JU2WQDzn5pAlpxqChbxr7{height:16px;margin-right:8px;width:16px}._3E45je-29yDjfFqFcLCXyH{margin-top:16px}._13YtS_rCnVZG1ns2xaCalg{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex}._1m5fPZN4q3vKVg9SgU43u2{margin-top:12px}._17A-IdW3j1_fI_pN-8tMV-{display:inline-block;margin-bottom:8px;margin-right:5px}._5MIPBF8A9vXwwXFumpGqY{border-radius:20px;font-size:12px;font-weight:500;letter-spacing:0;line-height:16px;padding:3px 10px;text-transform:none}._5MIPBF8A9vXwwXFumpGqY:focus{outline:unset} However, to his surprise, Wei Wuxian, Lan Wangji, and Wen Ning had arrived earlier to free the juniors. But then something would lack there. so i mean, either way, the resentful spirits/energy from either his army or his amulet could have been the real cause of his death. Thank you!! This would have also had to be censored. Also, the lack of emotional development from wei yings perspective is so disappointing. The aithorbdoes establish early on that WWX has a personality type where he doesn't really dwell on past struggles, sp it may be frustrating for the reader, but it's not necessarily inconsistent. Courtesy Name Even finding out the truth about his core didn't really make him be nicer to WWX, tho the drama suggests so. In the novel, he leads the siege on burial mounds that results in WWX's death. The two get off to a rocky start, as Wei Wuxian is terrified of dogs, and Jiang Cheng is forced to get rid of his pets for his new brother. Guo Haoran (animation)Gao Shang (animation - child)Peng Yao (audio drama)Zhao Xiaojiang (audio drama - child)Wang Kai (web series) I got different feelings about those things in the different media adaptations. He is infuriated when Lan Wangji destroys them and further infuriated when he encounters Wei Wuxian resurrected in the body of Mo Xuanyu, as Wei Wuxian has both accidentally reprimanded Jin Ling for not having a mother and used demonic cultivation. Mrs. Yu bound Wei Wuxian and Jiang Cheng with purple electricity, protecting them well, but she kept the last dignity of the . When Jiang Cheng leaves to hunt Wen Ning, Jin Ling frees Wei Wuxian[35] and flees before his uncle's return. Lan Wangji: In the Cloud Recesses flashback, Nie Huaisang says that he is the same age as Wei Wuxian and himself, which would be 15. He was percieved as a threat and Wen Ning acted to remove him, Wen remnants and WWX were promised amnesty if 'Wen Leaders' Wen Qing and Wen Ning would give themselves in, so it is more than likely that Wen Ning didn't lose control but was made to go berserk so the Jin clan would have a genuine reason to attack Burial Mounds and get their hands on the Seal, people say Jiang Cheng killed him, and we know how reliable rumours are.. WWX and Jiang Cheng himself deny it.._3K2ydhts9_ES4s9UpcXqBi{display:block;padding:0 16px;width:100%} He answersdoes it matter how I died etc..looking really sad as he said it. Jiang Cheng is unconcerned with dark technique so long as the user kills their shared enemies. But right now, the golden core revolving within him took away all that confidence.'. Who Brought Wei Wuxian Back To Life? - FAQS Clear Enough! - Chapter 3 - Jeeny271196 - - | Mdo Zsh - Mxing Jin Ling runs away after a fight one morning, and by the time Jiang Cheng finds him, Jin Ling declines to tell his uncle that "Mo Xuanyu" has saved him from being eaten by the Stone Castles. It all started with a letter from Gusu, asking for the hand of the YunMeng Omega in marriage. Ive also read a lot of other Chinese novels with a similar premise and I can say that other authors have delved a lot into emotions and characters inner turmoil, unlike in MDZS the novel. He locks his new martial brother out of their room and threatens to send dogs after him, prompting Wei Wuxian to flee. Currently, the original novel by MXTX ( | M Xing Tng Xi) has been adapted into a donghua, manhua, audio drama and live action! Japan is dubbing it and they're a lot less censored in their anime content but other than the opening and ending and melodies I don't think they reanimated it to make it less censored. Jen.draws on Tumblr [13], After the death of Jin Guangyao, Jiang Cheng takes Zidian to Golden Carp Tower to ensure that Jin Ling will inherit the position as clan leader of the Lanling Jin Clan. The Untamed (Series) - TV Tropes First Lan zhan point out that the evidence at burial mounds didnt match up with the official story. jiangfengmian; jinsect; jiangcheng +14 more # 13. . Yeah actually you got a point I mean if i hated someone for doing something for 13 years then i knew he didnt do it, itd still be hard for me to be normal toward them again. My thoughts on how Madame Yu really felt about Wei Wuxian Now that's all the numbers of reasons I think Jiang Cheng wronged Wei Wuxian and others mainly because he was choosing to look the other way or because he was acting like a spoiled brat. He captures him and keeps Fairy close while he interrogates him. I would guess he started to feel betrayed especially when he saw WWX with LWJ because he would have thought that WWX would come find him first. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. But its not fairy tale love and theyre going to be tense with each other. When Wei Wuxian ventures to the market one day, Jiang Cheng notices cultivators from the Qishan Wen Clan swarming the market. Theres really only one way wei wuxian would know why the soul summoning wasnt possible. ive even had a theory of my own from the anime series and such. [9], When Jiang Cheng reprimands Wei Wuxian for playing the hero by joining the fight to support Lan Wangji and Jin Zixuan, Jiang Fengmian rebukes his son. .ehsOqYO6dxn_Pf9Dzwu37{margin-top:0;overflow:visible}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu{height:24px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu{border-radius:2px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:focus,._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:hover{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-navIconFaded10);outline:none}._38GxRFSqSC-Z2VLi5Xzkjy{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT{border-top:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);cursor:pointer;padding:8px 16px 8px 8px;text-transform:none}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT:hover{background-color:#0079d3;border:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-body)} You cant raise their corpse or summon their soul to talk. hahaha, let's have a look at JC's feelings by the end of the novel shall we Just how much do you owe the Jiang Sect? [9], Wei Wuxian then promises Jiang Cheng that when he becomes clan leader, he will serve as his right-hand man. [11], The returning Jiang Fengmian finds and releases them, unaware of the situation at Lotus Pier. Wei Ying also explained in the anime last episode S3 that even Madame Yu was strict, she never do anything that would harm WWX, same like how JC do to WWX. This can't wait, please solve it soon." Wei Wuxian says as he finally rises from his bow. Now that's all the numbers of reasons I think Jiang Cheng wronged Wei Wuxian and others mainly because he was choosing to look the other way or because he was acting like a spoiled brat. Lan Wangji said that he knew that Wei Wuxian didn't get killed by his own ghost army and asked Wei Wuxian how did he die. three poisons; a Buddhist phrase for the root of all turmoil (greed, anger, ignorance) shngshu skilled practitioner, Jiang Cheng was born the second child of Yu Ziyuan and Jiang Fengmian. It made me so sad because at one scene WWX was like lets not bottle our feelings, we should talk it out when JC was upset due to his fathers favoritism. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/TopicLinksContainer.3b33fc17a17cec1345d4_.css.map*/WWX broke the seal, couldn't control his undead army and they turned on him. Then again, this is only a theory that I believe in. [39], Eventually, Wei Wuxian decides to risk his own life to allow the cultivators to escape. Their realtionship is one of them. [6] However, tensions erupt during the night-hunt on Mount Muxi, when Lan Wangji and Jin Zixuan defend Mianmian from Wen Chao's order to bind and bleed her to lure out their prey. he just feels like a clown now. It should have been a simple story with a happy ending. ._2cHgYGbfV9EZMSThqLt2tx{margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{width:75%;height:24px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-,._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{background:var(--newCommunityTheme-field);background-size:200%;margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-{width:100%;height:46px} ", So, he isn't enemies with him, that is for sure, yet they both need time to put the name of their current relationship. Looking at Wei Wu Xian's reaction to Lan Wangji's question, I personally think that he took his own life just like in the web series, But I am not sure of how he did so. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. At Nightless City, JYL came to see him, thus putting herself in danger and shoving WWX out of the way and took a death blow for him. Novel felt like hitting the hornets nest today OP? An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works They also cut quite alot of scenes / dialogue from the book. Jiang Cheng | Wiki | Founder of Diabolism Amino He seemed quite shook that it did nothing, iirc. Too much pain, grief and heartache after so many years. Once he is convinced they are telling the truth, he allowed them to speak to the rest of the cultivators present. I just watched the donghua version of the Founder of Diabolism, and I am still confused about how did Wei Wuxian die. Imprints Chapter 6, an untamed/ fanfic | FanFiction SanduZidian Title "Shush. Number of reasons Jiang Cheng Wronged Wei Wuxian and others The Yunmeng Jiang Sect was obliterated. [49], Rather than teaming together to hunt Wen Chao, in the Animation, Jiang Cheng and Lan Wangji are captured by Wen Chao during a fierce battle of the Sunshot Campaign. However, he happened upon Jiang Cheng violently whipping a demonic cultivator he had captured, and he was so scared that he fled. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Plus if he really wanted him dead, he had the perfect opportunity while LWJ was holding him but he deliberately missed. And this was when WWX said he would always serve JC and then would be twin heroes etc. I think the author provided enough explanation on Wen Ning going beserk. To his dismay, Yu Ziyuan orders the doors closed. Not even lan zhan could reach his spirit. [24], Jiang Cheng leads the clans against Wei Wuxian, blaming him for Jiang Yanli's death. The animation changes the storyline quite alot as things take place in different places. He also made a comment in the earlier chapters that someone among the living refused to let him rest in peace. I'm more anxious. He and Wei Wuxian then watch in shock as Yu Ziyuan slaps Wang Lingjiao while Jinzhu and Yinzhu kill the Wen cultivators accompanying her. Untamed/ FanFiction Archive | FanFiction Hikaru Midorikawa (animation, audio drama, web series) And then JGY does it again at the temple and blames him for everything that happened to WWX (which is pretty inaccurate). But we'll see when they complete all 3 seasons . The Untamed - Season 1 - IMDb Am I not supposed to hate you? Bichen was strong enough to carry both of them, but I guess they couldn't exactly show the ghost/corpse backfire on Chinese TV. Gender Why would he be searching for him in the first place if he really thought WWX was really and truly dead? In what manner, i dont know. The Founder of Diabolism: Season 1 (2018) - The Movie Database I can't point Sandu at that old friend anymore. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. According to various people in the novel including Wei Wuxian, he died because his powers backfired, and he was ripped to pieces by his corpses as a result, but nobody ever says that it happened when he destroyed the Stygian Tiger Seal. Male Voice Actor (Chinese) Jiang Cheng/History - Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation Wiki Hence he decided to continue living. I was like "People dont work like that!". As a skilled doctor, Wen Qing treats Jiang Cheng but requests that they leave quickly, lest she fall under suspicion. To kill Wei Wuxian because of anger, Wen Chao does the worst thing that he ever does to anyone. His escape, however, is interrupted by the arrival of the Fierce Corpse of Nie Mingjue. I agree that WWX shouldnt have gone full dark and angsty but I did want those feelings of his to be explored more, Im disappointed that the author left so much of that up to readers interpretation. MXTX, can't you just throw me a bone here? after the golden core reveal, he can no long justify his reasons for hating wwx. ._3oeM4kc-2-4z-A0RTQLg0I{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-pack:justify;justify-content:space-between} After finding everything out its clear he wouldnt have wanted to fight anymore because he had nothing left to fight for and he only ever fought for others anyway, never himself, yet everyone he knew or would fight for turned against him.